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Sass illustrates Significant Disadvantage; Match Game: Brandable Vs Keywords

June 16, 2018 By John Colascione 7 Comments

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NEW YORK, NY – .CLUB Chief Marketing Officer Jeff Sass gave a keynote speech at NamesCon Europe 2018 and did what appeared to be a fantastic job of illustrating, through various different examples, just how bad it is when coming up with your own word (one which has no meaning) when choosing your domain name. Sass accomplished this by showing domain names made up of unknown words on screen and had attendees guess, by multiple choice, what they believed the businesses did that operated on these obscure names.

The results by the audience really weren’t that good, and Sass then illustrated why putting a keyword driven extension on the end (to the right of the dot), for instance, .social, would then add a lot of recognizable substance to the address for a social media service. You could then at least figure out, even with a weird and unusual word in the URL, that it probably had something to do with social media. Another good example was .dental, which lends immediate recognition that the name should have something to do with dental industry.

Check out the video to play-along with the word match game Jeff used in his examples.

I couldn’t help but think to myself how interesting the timing for this video was since just days ago, I covered a Domain Sherpa interview with Rand Fishkin, widely known in the SEO and online marketing community from his years at Moz. In that interview video, Fishkin strongly supported the exact opposite; coming up with something all your own, which I feel is not a good idea and bad advice unless you have near-limitless marketing funds.

In my article I detailed why I thought this was the equivalent of Startup Death. Jeff Sass also, much like Rand Fishkin, is a master-marketer and is likely responsible for a great deal of the success .club has experienced over the years. I find it near amazing and somewhat of a rare occurrence to see these two master-markers in complete disagreement.

Both also have new books out:

  • Sass: Everything I Know about Business and Marketing, I Learned from THE TOXIC AVENGER 
  • Fishkin: Lost and Founder: A Painfully Honest Field Guide to the Startup World

I want to note that I have a lot of respect for the accomplishments and success .club has experienced over the years which is likely due greatly to Jeff’s marketing decisions (not to under attribute owner Colin Campbell’s pioneering business savvy). With that said I believe .club is likely one of the most, if not the most successful extensions in actually “branding itself” in the gTLD industry and to consumers as a good alternative domain which is evident by his saying they now have a whopping 277,000 live .club site owners using the domain extension for their main business sites.

However there was one fundamental thing that Jeff said during the keynote which I did not agree with:

It doesn’t matter what the extension is; you want the words to the left of the dot to be spelled correctly, so that people can find them and remember them.”

I cannot disagree more with this bold statement and I don’t think anyone would agree with it, either inside or outside of the domain name industry.

Towards the very end he reiterated this by saying:

At the end of the day, if you have a business and you find a domain name that resonates for you, regardless of what the extension is, if you find the domain name that’s the perfect domain name for your business and you’re happy with it, that’s all that you care about, you don’t care if that extension also has six million registrations and forty-two million dollars of premium sales; all you care about is the end user; that you got a name that represents your business well, that helps you drive customers to it and you’re happy and there are millions of happy end users out there today using .club names and other new extensions”.

I just can’t agree with this because being “happy” is not necessarily going to lead to being “successful”. That comes long after a startup has made it. If a business owner wants to be happy, he or she needs first to find success and making business decisions based solely on what alternative web address is liked more or what end users might think sounds good, is not the best choice and should actually be the last choice.

A business owner, especially a new business owner, needs to make these important business decisions specifically on what is best for his or her specific businesses “leverage” in its marketplace, its foundation, or what makes his or her business, itself, “better”, “better positioned” or “better marketed” then their competitors.

Jeff also took some time to talk about Names.Club and Startup.club, both new endeavors to help entrepreneurs find keyword rich .club domain names and how domain brokers can earn commissions by partnering and signing up on the platforms.

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About The Author: John Colascione is Chief Executive Officer of Internet Marketing Services Inc. He specializes in Website Monetization, is a Google AdWords Certified Professional, authored a ‘how to’ book called ”Mastering Your Website‘, and is a key player in several Internet related businesses through his search engine strategy brand Searchen Networks®

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Comments

  1. Don says

    June 16, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    The question should be without any regards to price would you rather own Carinsurance.com or Car.insurance?

    Next question to ask is what extension do consumers would trust more? Companies don’t have 10-15 years right now to gain trust from an odd ball extension they want it right now. >com is the only path to that.

    Don
    Domainpad.com

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    • Joe Styler says

      June 18, 2018 at 3:15 pm

      I saw Jeff present this and didn’t watch the video. So it may have been something he said outside the video. I don’t think he was saying someone wouldnt prefer to have carinsurance.com over car.insurance. What he was saying is that since carinsurance.com is taken and Quinn Street will likely never sell this domain to you no matter what you want to pay then you can’t have carinsurance.com. So you have to come up with an alternative.
      When considering alternatives weigh the brandability of a longtail available .com vs a short non com. There are certainly many other factors that go into deciding on a brand. Of course .com has a long brand history but I think it is a valid point that when the short category killer .com is owned by a company that will in all likelihood never sell or be so far out of your reach financially that you need to consider other alternatives. Jeff simply says here are some of the options. Here are some companies doing well with our new tld.

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  2. Michael Anthony Castello says

    June 16, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    Most large companies have the .com and that is where the trust factor is engrained with the pubic. Search engines want to change that impulse to choose their platform to define a word and secure the public’s trust. One they accomplish that the public will be dependent on their gateway. Developed .com domain names counter the socialistic strategy of these tech giants. It is symbolically the David and Goliath storyline between small businesses and monopolies..

    Rand Fishkin is correct. Anyone with unlimited resources can create a global brand. Generic.com gave those with limited resources the ability to reach a global market which played perfectly into a mindset of brand-.com-internet.

    Spend $300 million to make a global brand but when the brand goes belly up, it’s worth pennies. Remember HomeGrocer.com?

    When a generic brand like Cars.com, Wine.com or Hotels.com goes bankrupt,if ever, the brand will always be worth millions/billions to the next business that acquires it.

    That is the Achilles Heel of Google.

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  3. Snoopy says

    June 16, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    Nothing more than a sales pitch. We’ve heard this before from .info, .us, .mobi, .asia. Good luck to anyone who listens to sales pitches at conferences instead of figuring it out for themselves.

    Reply
    • Fosir says

      June 18, 2018 at 2:04 am

      “Info, .us, .mobi, .asia”
      You do know that unlike the other .us is a cctld. Hey how you respond to my most probably be like many others that that us is blah blah blah blah still doesn’t change it’s the country code for the u.s….. majority of people that voice themselves online and regards to that us will agree with you but those are successful Visionaries are in the vast minority.

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  4. Snoopy says

    June 16, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    Gotta say also, these conferences now seem to be near worthless value, judging from the reviews and pictures it mostly seems to be a bunch of new tld registries trying to promote their products.

    Where is the value in hearing from .global or .club?

    Reply
  5. domain guy says

    June 17, 2018 at 2:24 pm

    Didn’t I just outline this a few days ago on another one of your blog posts? this is a dead issue. If you even think it is an issue get rid of longisland.com. And end this conversion. We are not interested in rehashing this junk. Now if you want to learn something and see what a leader is doing with a keyword domain that cost 700K. Go analyze furniture.com.uk
    Now this has real value…and not only that it comes from outside the US.
    Additionally we have an example of sex.com that went under and was resold for 13 million?
    As I stated your are not strategic you rehash worthless info..
    Domain guy is one page one of google for 5 different keywords…all because of unique content and keywords forwarding into the webpages. The more visits the more google spiders move my pages up.

    Reply

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